janneuf: Not really, but that principle is a military dictum that says basically that any wounded man must be attended by two other combatants to remove him from the field of battle, thereby removing THREE men from the conflict. But we would always much rather kill our enemy than wound him. If kill...

There's some very, very BAD ADVICE in this thread. In 49 deer and elk seasons, one thing I've learned is that you use deer rifles for hunting deer, elk rifles (and calibers) for elk, and VARMINT RIFLES AND CALIBERS FOR VARMINTS! My grandfather who ran our hunting lodge in BC, and a former British Sg...

Goody: Sorry about the hijacking of the thread, not sure how we got sidetracked, but I've asked the moderator to separate and put the chopper stuff on a separate thread. The only reason it's here at all is that it's Leupold-related. Not sure if I can grant any of those wishes, but I'd like to! :D M...

Gube and Mike: I agree with you both, and I think most everyone here does too. Being from BC myself, I saw more rifle-killed carcasses there too, but it appears no matter where we're all located, we are all burdened by slobs in our collective midst. Let's just hope our ethics are passed on to the y...

With respect to you both regarding the ethical nature of bow versus rifle, I think the key here is proficiency with whatever weapon you choose, and the fact that arrows kill by virtue of hemorage, and rifles kill by virtue of kinetic energy and tissue disruption....both are lethal if used properly. ...

In regard to the questions on the Leupold chopper: It was built here in Bend, OR around the corner from our shop by my son and our friends at BMC Choppers; "Big Mike's Choppers", Mike and Greg. No, I did not take her out for a spin, no one has yet, the motor is unfired, and will remain so ...

Okay, here it is...sorry for the huge format, but I don't know how to reduce them in size...maybe Glenn will feel pity on all of us and do it for me. http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g66/packrat1/PC181336.jpg Yours truly sitting on the almost completed Leupold custom BMC Chopper. All that gold is n...

Scooter's right, the Sinclair tool is indeed one at a time. I shoot high volume too, and once used to using it, the priming goes much faster than you'd imagine. I load for about 10 different varmint calibers in addition to my big game calibers, and use the Simclair tool for all of them now. I'll adm...

Goody: Sure no problem. I'm like you, and have resigned myself to biting the bullet and just pay the piper up front, as I'll end up paying mutiple times if I don't buy the best the first time out of the gate (such experience can be expensive......) I'm not saying this is the panacea of primer pocke...

As the others have noted, the Lee is a very good unit for the money. I used one for over 15 years with perfect success. The RCBS is good too, but for a number of personal reasons, mine did not stay on my bench long. All K&M stuff is good, ditto for their primer seating tool. I especially like th...

See my above post: Excellent inside 250 yards, and that's just for the 17 Mach IV. Guys have been using the 17 Rem on coyotes for many years, very fur friendly.

The 17 Rem, 17/223, and the 17 Terminator extend that range even further.

Re: 17FB / 17 Mach IV.... I built up a 17 Mach IV on an old Sako L461 action, 24" Shelin SS barrel in a McMillian stock with Leupold 6.5-20X scope for ground squirrels. You can see all your hits/misses, zilch recoil, long intervals between cleanings (I go 50 rounds, moly coated), and the littl...

Hutch45: Well, that's what makes this such a great country to live in....we have choices! I hope that new scope works out great for you. (P.S. Out of respect for what you heard, I forwarded this entire thread to the folks in management I know at Leupold. If true, they need to know what's circulatin...

The "rat" is rumor mongering. All my experience is personal, and my most recent experience (good) was last month. Hard to believe that a company that built it's reputation on quality and customer service would suddenly go in the opposite direction regarding their customer service. No insul...

No.1: My Number One Varmint (223 Rem) has a Leu 6.5-20X with target adjustments and a 4" sunshade... Looks like a real rat killer. PM me with your email and I'll send you a pic if you want. My Ruger No.3 in 17 Ackley Hornet (Pac-Nor SS Super Match/B&C synthetic stock) wears a Leu 6-18X set...