slowing down a 32gr vmax

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kick1121
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slowing down a 32gr vmax

Post by kick1121 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:11 pm

hello all this is my first post here i am wondering if any one has been able to get under 3200 fps with the 32gr vmax i recently purchased a ruger American i ordered brass dies and bullets i got some 39gr speer tnt 32gr vmax and 40gr vmax i started coyote hunting last year and took 6 coyotes with my 223 and one early this fall with my 17 wsm the ones shot with the 223 had huge holes i was not able to save any of the pelts each one was shot with a different bullet as i was trying to find a fur friendly bullet as for the one shot with the 17 and a 20 gr vmax from about 40 yards the entrance hole was about the size of a dine with no exit but even at that distance and a well placed shot it ran 75 yards before it dropped so i purchased the 204 with the hope of a fur friendly round with a bit more energy but quickly found it is just as bad as the 223 on fur at full velocity i got a baseball size hole with the speer tnt so i figure if i can slow the bullets down a bit it might work out any suggestions no offense to anyone but please dont recommend the berger bullets they are a little expensive and i think i would get the same results as the speer thanks for any help feel free to tell me im living in a dream :lol:

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randyman
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Re: slowing down a 32gr vmax

Post by randyman » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:45 am

I may be way off base with this as I don't have any experience with it yet but I've read about the Barne's Varmint Grenades being fur friendly. It's a non-lead frangible copper bullet that's suppose to come apart upon entrance. I have several hundred in stock in preparation for Commiefornia's ban on lead bullets. Check them out on the various varmint shooting forums. Some believe there could be a problem using them with suppressors but that'll never be a concern for me as long as I remain a resident here.
As for slowing down the .204, I don't think you're going to see much of a change to the fur damage. About the slowest I've recorded my loads while staying within the min/max load charts is around 3400. Others may have different loads that are slower but with the powders I've tried that's what I get. I think your best bet is with a different bullet-just my 2 cents worth. Keep livin' the dream! Randy.

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Re: slowing down a 32gr vmax

Post by kWm » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:54 am

Im sure you can slow down the 32vmax but you could have done that with your .223, you are going to lose your laser-like trajectory which is really the only difference between the 204 and 223. I havent shot any yotes with the 35 bergers but thats the bullet everyone says is the best bet for holding together on coyote size game. The bergers are less than a dime a bullet more expensive, if you are using them to take fur that would be a non factor for me if they work better. My calling buddy uses a 40gr vmax a hot load in his 223, i chronied it around 3750. For some reason that load does not damage coyotes bad at all. Its dumped a pile of them and very few were bad exits. A lot of the time it fragments internally and no exit. If he hits a shoulder bone especially at an angle it does rip badly. If its behind shoulder where it brlongs it folds them up and minimal damage. If you want good trajectory, killing power, and minimal fur damage go to a .243 or .25-06 with some good hard bullets.

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Re: slowing down a 32gr vmax

Post by kick1121 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:25 pm

thanks for the replies i have tried the 40gr vmax in my 223 and had terrible accuracy even a key hole i did find a decent load for the for the 50 gr vmax and 15gr of 1680 that might get me around 2000 + fps at close range this might be ok but i would not feel comfortable shooting at a 100 yards or more the thought behind my question was if the 17 wsm at 3000 fps at the muzzle and the vmax did not break apart like it was designed to even going through a rib at that speed i would be able to get a little more penetration without it breaking apart on impact with a 32gr vmax at a lower speed i dont know why my experiences have resulted in fur destroying shots ive seen a lot of shots taken on youtube with a 22-250 with vmax hornady ammo and the fur looks perfectly fine with my limited but personal experience this has not been the case i think i will try the Varmint Grenades i guess i should have looked into bullet selection before thinking this was a magic fur friendly caliber i love the gun so it wont be going anywhere thanks again

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