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1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:40 pm
by Motoshooter
Gidday

Went out with my TikkaT3 and couple of boxes of factory Winchester 32grain ammo. I zeroed at 100yds. At 200yds bullet drop is 3,5" and at 250yds drop is a whooping 9,8".

Thats not flat to me!

I have not had a chance to use a chrono but Im wondering what you guys are seeing?


Guess I must soon start to reload myself.

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:58 pm
by Lead Lobber
Zero at 200 or 250......

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:14 am
by Motoshooter
Maybe I try that next time. If zeroed at 200 I guess its gona be 3" high at 100yds, at least according to my first test of bullet drop. Right?

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:32 am
by broper
In my opinion 3" at 100 yds. is too high for varmint cartridges. I zeroed mine 1" high at 100 yds. and that works real well. I have no problem hitting badhers at 300 yds. I've shot groups as small as .169 at 100 yds. but never shot any groups farther than that.
Bob

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:10 am
by 247sniper
My rifle shoots the opposite and I dont know why, I have zeroed at 100 yards and its still bob on at 200 yards! And only 5 inch low at 300 ! Never have been able to understand it, especially since I have a relitivley low muzzel velocity of 3707 ftps!


Steve.

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:11 am
by 247sniper
Motoshooter wrote:Gidday

Went out with my TikkaT3 and couple of boxes of factory Winchester 32grain ammo. I zeroed at 100yds. At 200yds bullet drop is 3,5" and at 250yds drop is a whooping 9,8".

Thats not flat to me!

I have not had a chance to use a chrono but Im wondering what you guys are seeing?


Guess I must soon start to reload myself.

Are you using a range finder to confirm them distances?

Steve.

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:38 am
by Motoshooter
Yup, using a range finder to confirm :)

Also went out with a chrony just now. Average
speed 4100fps at muzzle in calm winds.

It groups nicely already BUT Im a little surprised it does not shoot flatter (as desribed above). But then again I have only shot 25 rounds from a new rifle.

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:23 pm
by Glen
Get some 39gr Sierras. You should have a different trajectory that will be more satisfying to what you're looking for.

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:59 pm
by Motoshooter
Would any of you tell me what you are loading and what the trajectory is like in your case?

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:58 pm
by Lonegunnmenn
29 gr or RL-15 with 39gr SBK 2.295" col Hornady brass 2in high at 100 yds

My gun (howa 1500) does wired stuff with factory loads too it did well with nosler ammo though and HSM 39gr SBK . I would work up some loads for it

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:42 am
by futuretrades
After firing hundreds of rounds down range, using both 32gr Vmax and 39gr sbk's at paper and mostly at "Skippy", I can tell you from experience, out my rifle both bullets poi is close enough that I do hold in the same place, looking thru the scope, out to around 300 yards. Any distances farther than that, the 39's are my bullet of choice, because the 32's begin to drop substantially. I cannot tell you how much these 2 bullets drop at any range, because I have never shot at paper targets at marked distance greater than 100 yards. I sight all my rifles dead on at 100 yards. I use my Leupold reticle to make all of my hold adjustment points at any distance.
Like some of the other posters here, I would suggest trying the 39's for any distance you are shooting.

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:12 pm
by Lead Lobber
Zero at 200 should only be .7" high @100 yards(with a 40 grain). This is off the Hornady ballistics chart......

http://www.hornady.com/assets/files/bal ... istics.pdf

I zero my .204's around the 270 yard mark. The 100 yard mark is a hair over an inch high.

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:26 am
by broper
In my 700 Rem. VLS the 32 gr. Varmageddon is the most accurate bullet. I've shot three shot groups as small as .169 with it. The 39 gr. shot around 3/4' +/-. I had a 39 gr. sierra splash on a badger at about 200 yds. and a friend had one splash on a coyote so we pretty much just use them for ground squirrels and rockchucks. I've shot badgers with the 32 gr. Varmageddon and it puts them down hard. Never got a splash with them. My favorte load is 28.5 grains BLC(2) . I've shot as much as 30 gr. with no signs of high pressure but the 28.5 gr. load is more accurate in my gun. I like the 40 gr. V-Max bullets real well but they're not quite as accurate as the 32 gr. Varmageddons.

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:12 am
by 247sniper
broper wrote:In my 700 Rem. VLS the 32 gr. Varmageddon is the most accurate bullet. I've shot three shot groups as small as .169 with it. The 39 gr. shot around 3/4' +/-. I had a 39 gr. sierra splash on a badger at about 200 yds. and a friend had one splash on a coyote so we pretty much just use them for ground squirrels and rockchucks. I've shot badgers with the 32 gr. Varmageddon and it puts them down hard. Never got a splash with them. My favorte load is 28.5 grains BLC(2) . I've shot as much as 30 gr. with no signs of high pressure but the 28.5 gr. load is more accurate in my gun. I like the 40 gr. V-Max bullets real well but they're not quite as accurate as the 32 gr. Varmageddons.

What is a splash???

Steve.

Re: 1st shoot, NOT so flat trajectory ?!

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:22 am
by 247sniper
Motoshooter wrote:Would any of you tell me what you are loading and what the trajectory is like in your case?

This is what my rifle is doing to the exact. 200 Yard zero, it is spot on at 100, yes spot on! at 300 it is 5.3 inch, 400 yards its 16.5 inch and 500 it is 36inch.


When zeroed at 100 yards the figures are basically identical out to 400 yards!

How you getting on?



Steve.