Would you give up on this load? ( Pics)

[kirbymagnum]

The rifle is a Remington VS SF II with a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24. I think I'm going to buy a jewell trigger and that might help my flyers, the factory trigger is brutal.

My load is 27.7 grains, Rem BR primer, and a 39BK with seating depth varying from 2.250-2.290. Would you keep playing with the seating depth or try a different component?

BlC (2) shot wonders in my gun with fed primers using the 39BK but its on order and I only have H 4895 and Varget to use. I don't think Varget would shoot that great with the 204 Ruger so I haven't tried it yet.

I always seem to have some sort of flyer.

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[WrzWaldo]

Are those 3 shot groups?

Have considered tryinga five shot group?

[Vartarg]

Have you had an opportunity to try Alliant's RL10X? I've been very satisfied with 25.1gr with the 39BK....your mileage may differ.....

[kirbymagnum]

Are those 3 shot groups?

Yes.

Have considered trying five shot group?

Not after seeing the three shot results. I'm starting to panic because i don't know if i will find a good load to shoot in the online shooting event.

Have you had an opportunity to try Alliant's RL10X? I've been very satisfied with 25.1gr with the 39BK....your mileage may differ.....

I will give that powder a try if i can find some. reloading supplies is limited here, I usually have to order from the city.

[Verminator2]

I'd probably try the first one again, with five shots.

[Hawkeye Joe]

I would give it another go or 2 . load 20 rounds,5 the same OAL as we see here, and 3 groups of 5 at different OAL's.

[Bergcrane2]

How many rounds do you have through the gun? I have the same gun and wasn't really happy with it until I got 200+ rounds through it. I had the same flyer problem. I went with the RE 10X 25.3gr with a 39SBK and the flyers are pretty much gone. I had my trigger lightened to 2.25# and it breaks clean.

[bk63044]

I have found that my gun shoots well with Varget. I am shooting 39BK with 28 grains Varget. Out of my CZ I am getting under half inch groups.

[kirbymagnum]

How many rounds do you have through the gun?

I have about 700 rounds down the tube.

I have found that my gun shoots well with Varget.

I'm going to give Varget a try, as well as loading 5 shot groups of H 4895 and see how it works.

[Guy M]

When I get results like that top picture - I'm the culprit. Looks like three shots almost on top of each other and one way out to the right? Am I reading that right?

Rem 700 triggers are pretty easy to tune, and also very easy to replace. A good trigger can make a huge difference in group size.

Rem 700's in HS Precision stocks sometimes respond well to a "skim bed" or "skin bed" job (term varies by riflesmith). One of mine had a wandering zero problem until Jim Cloward did a "skim bed" job on it - and has been wonderfully consistent and accurate since.

At a minimum, make sure the action screws are all snugged down properly, preferably with an inch-pound torque wrench.

Also worth checking the scope mounts and rings for tightness.

How does factory ammo do through the same rifle? It can be a good truth teller, letting you know if it's a handload problem, or a rifle problem.

Remington bores are notoriously rough. Generally accurate, but all of my recent factory Remingtons have had rough bores that fouled easily. Fouling can really mess with accuracy - I think even more so with a small, high intensity cartridge like the .204 Ruger.

Am assuming these are 100 yard groups? If so - the main group is pretty good. What, maybe a half inch center to center?

Just thoughts... Guy

[Bergcrane2]

Another issue I had, I did a bonehead thing. When I put Loctite on the screws for the scope bases, I put a tad too much on, and I got a small layer between the base and the reciever. I was having dual POI's. Took me a while to figure it out. All's well now.

[kirbymagnum]

When I get results like that top picture - I'm the culprit. Looks like three shots almost on top of each other and one way out to the right? Am I reading that right?

Two shots almost on top of each other and the third shot out. I have a hard time thinking that its the load too, if two shots will go in one hole why wouldn't the third one? Probably because the stiff trigger makes me pull. ( Sometimes I start shaking when i squeeze the trigger its so hard to pull)

Rem 700's in HS Precision stocks sometimes respond well to a "skim bed" or "skin bed" job

Is that the same thing as bedding the action?

How does factory ammo do through the same rifle?

I can beat factory ammo with BLC (2) powder but I'm having a hard time with H4895.

When I put Loctite on the screws for the scope bases, I put a tad too much on, and I got a small layer between the base and the receiver

I don't think that is the problem but I will check it out.

[kirbymagnum]

If my brass length has different lengths ( but are in specs) would this affect accuracy? ( Even if my C.O.A.L. is the same)

[sj63042]

hi i'm new here been cruising this site for about a month now. I find it very interesting and very informative. Thought I would join up last week and am finally posting. As to kirbymagnums last post-wouldnt variations in brass length cause inconsistent neck tension?Seems like that would be the deal since on the longer lengths you would have more neck gripping the bullet.

[Verminator2]

Welcome to the forum SJ!!