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Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:33 pm
by Robert harrel
wrzwaldo and others that are coating their own bullets
how long do you tumble them in a thumbler tumbler
or how long in a vibrateing tumbler
also are you waxing afterwords

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:16 pm
by WrzWaldo
Waxing is not required for WS2. I usually let them vibrate for about 2 hours.

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:00 am
by Robert harrel
Thanks wrzwaldo
i coated some last night and let the thumbler run about 2 hrs every thing came out real good
270 50 gr bergers, 300 35 bergers, and aprox. 350 39 bks all at one time useing 3 450 ml tubbs stacked inside
i found one 50 gr that never made it to the form die just a jacket a lead core in it
qc must have blinked when this one went by :huh:

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:59 am
by Rick in Oregon
Waldo: When I first got into coating bullets with WS2, Dave at Tru-Kote (a BR shooter) who is a chemist that sells both Moly and WS2, told me to tumble with steel burnishing balls (3/16" dia.) for 30 minutes, then tumble in another drum for 5 minutes lined with a few layers of plain newspaper to polish the bullets, and get the excess powder off.

I've probably coated something like 10K bullets since that time, and just wonder why you're leaving them in the tumbler for so long. Do you have a reason based on experience, or did someone tell you that extended time was necessary?

I'm tumbling in a RCBS Sidewinder tumbler, using two drums, one for the steel balls, the other dedicated to only polishing the bullets. Just curious..... :chin:

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:41 am
by WrzWaldo
Rick,

Some folks that work in the dry film lube industry recommended 2 hours so that's what I went with. If I can get the same results in 30 minutes that would be super! Since that works well for you I'm going to give it a try this evening.

For polishing I hand shake in shredded newspaper for about 30 seconds, if I'm coating them for someone else I'll follow that with a few shakes in a wool sock.

Thanks for the info

WW!

edit: Hey Rick 30 minutes is it! Thanks...

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:23 pm
by WrzWaldo
I see someone has patented the process for applying WS2 to bullets.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6036996.html

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6036996-fulltext.html (US Patent Issued on March 14, 2000) Inventor Merrill D. Martin

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:02 am
by WHISTLEPIG
Just out of curiosity, why would someone patent a process that is common knowledge?

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:09 am
by WrzWaldo
WHISTLEPIG wrote:Just out of curiosity, why would someone patent a process that is common knowledge?
Not to mention a process that has been used for many years prior for coating other things.

Just one of the many things wrong with the broken patent process.

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:49 pm
by skipper
I thought I would give this thread a bump. Worth looking in to if your interested in coated bullets.

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:46 pm
by brooksb
When I lived in Siskiyou Co in the 80's myself and a friend were using Moly coated bullets in our 22-250's and I continued after moving, but it seemed Moly went out of favor as bullets became a rare find, and I noticed there wasn't much new information or articles and the gunsmith at Huntington's said it built up in the barrel and was generally bad. I stopped using, so what's up with Moly and this WS2 stuff? I thought there were benefits to its use for the same reasons stated in these posts.

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:36 pm
by brooksb
My mistake probably, I was waiting in town and was on the phone looking at the site and the subject reminded me of my Moly days so I posted, now I get home on the LT and see this thread or subject hasn't been active in 10 years, well I won't be disappointed if it ain't answered.

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:08 pm
by jo191145
brooksb wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:36 pm My mistake probably, I was waiting in town and was on the phone looking at the site and the subject reminded me of my Moly days so I posted, now I get home on the LT and see this thread or subject hasn't been active in 10 years, well I won't be disappointed if it ain't answered.
Sorry, I was in the bathroom LOL
WS2 doesn’t build upon itself like moly does. It cleans out of the barrel quite easily.

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:19 pm
by brooksb
I was right there this time, no excuses, I think I'll look into Coating again Silver Fox coats his bullets, but he's the only one I've noticed. I bought coated Moly bullets for my 22-250 for 4 or 5 years to reduce friction heat and to reduce cleaning time, not sure about either, but accuracy was very good.

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:39 am
by jo191145
If your looking to start from scratch I’d go with the newest kid on the block. Hexoganol Boron Nitride (HBN)
Easier to apply, much less mess and a lower coefficient of friction.
https://www.lowerfriction.com/product-p ... tegoryID=2

Re: WS2 Coated Bullets

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:03 pm
by brooksb
Thanks I'll look be into it, gotta be ready for varmints in Feb.