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Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:45 pm
by hemiallen
SactoBill wrote:Ok do spoke to Shirley, super nice lady, and will be sending the rifle back. While there I'm having them install a OD Green Phoenix stock with black webbing. Figured if I'm going to send them the rifle might as well have them fit a Phoenix stock to it.

So hopefully I'll have a nice Phoenix stocked M38 that'll actually work in a few weeks.

Bill

I just received an email that UPS delivered my 17 rem cooper to Shirley. It will, as soon as they get their next batch of 20 cal barrels, get a 20VT chamber job done to it.

I am not 100% sure or not if Rick is saving or costing me money with his help guiding me down the right path he has already gone, lol.

What did they quote you for the Phoenix stock?


Thanks

Allen

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:35 pm
by Rick in Oregon
hemiallen wrote:I am not 100% sure or not if Rick is saving or costing me money with his help guiding me down the right path he has already gone, lol.
Allen, as your unofficial "Purchasing Mentor" :wink: , just chant after me....."I'm saving money, I'm saving money, this is a good idea......"

But I promise that your first morning out in the rat patch with your sweet new Cooper 20VT will be a dandy one*......that I do promise. Skippy however, is pretty much predicted to NOT approve! :lol:

(*Mark my words.....k?)

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:18 pm
by SactoBill
Allen,

They quoted $300 for the regular Phoenix stock (black with red webbing), $125 to fit and bed. I ordered the olive drab green stock with black webbing which costs another $200.

Pretty pricey! Thanks a lot Rick! :(

Bill

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:47 am
by hemiallen
Thanks Bill

I'll keep the ratty wood stock, but if I didn't send them the 17 I haven't used in a years time of owning it, I WAS going to buy a New Phoenix 20vt.


Yes, Rick has, for sure, saved me a bunch in my learning period.


Thanks both


Allen

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:34 pm
by Mike
SactoBill wrote:Allen,

They quoted $300 for the regular Phoenix stock (black with red webbing), $125 to fit and bed. I ordered the olive drab green stock with black webbing which costs another $200.

Pretty pricey! Thanks a lot Rick! :(

Bill
Wowsers! $625 for a green/black Phoenix stock, fit and bedded to your rifle? That's nearly half way to a whole new rifle.

Absolutely not knocking your decision at all. I'm just a bit surprised at the cost of a replacement stock. You should have a real beauty when all is said and done, Bill.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:55 pm
by SactoBill
Mike,

My name's not Bill, I don't live in Sacramento and I didn't buy a stock for $625.





Ok just in case my wife sees this post. ;)

I'm hoping it's a looker but I'd be happy just to shoot it. The tech called me yesterday and told me he coildn't replicate my extraction problem. He thought I may have used hot handloads but I told him it was all factory HSM rounds. He said the HSM rounds were fine and they have those on hand and will use it to run tests again. So keeping my fingers crossed.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:39 pm
by Mike
What stock? ;)

I sure hope Cooper sorts out your extractor issue soon. I am a huge Cooper fan, but this is a frustrating problem. It's good that Cooper is doing a good job of keeping you in the loop with status updates, though.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:01 pm
by terrace
Now that's some funny stuff there John Doe
I love the green/black stock have one a weatherby .i shot my Phoenix vt for the first time today using 32 vmax hsm ammo . I had one hard bolt lift and six primers looked to be bulged out of the pocket ?

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:17 am
by SactoBill
terrace wrote:Now that's some funny stuff there John Doe
I love the green/black stock have one a weatherby .i shot my Phoenix vt for the first time today using 32 vmax hsm ammo . I had one hard bolt lift and six primers looked to be bulged out of the pocket ?
From what the tech said, HSM rounds are suppose to work in Cooper rifles. He said HSM was located close to Cooper and they use HSM rounds for testing purposes. That's not good about what you experienced. Did you buy your HSM rounds recently? I bought mine about a month ago from Sportsmans Guide.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:52 am
by terrace
I don't remember where I bought them .but I found them right after you posted about them just wanted to have some when the rifle arrived . About 8 of 50 shot had the raised primer.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:26 am
by SactoBill
Oh I hope there's nothing wrong with the HSM rounds. I finally have all the supplies I need to reload so as soon as Cooper sends the rifle back, I'll try some handloads.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:11 am
by terrace
I need powder and dies I have some RL 7 that was supposed to be in stock ordered 3 weeks ago. my cooper target says H 335 .in the meantime the 204s will get plenty of use.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:23 pm
by SactoBill
I bought Redding dies from Todd Kindler. And I got lucky and found Remington 7 1/2 primers and H4198 powder. All set to go but no rifle.

If you haven't ordered your dies yet, try Todd. I know he has them in stock.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:30 pm
by terrace
I am going to give him a call tomorrow and order the dies and his book still need the powder for the VT and 17 h hornet been stocking up on all primers since the last shortage

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:00 pm
by Captqc
SactoBill wrote:Oh I hope there's nothing wrong with the HSM rounds. I finally have all the supplies I need to reload so as soon as Cooper sends the rifle back, I'll try some handloads.
I've shot hundreds of rounds of HSM ammo in my Cooper .204 with no trouble at all. Gary