Colt: A fair deal?

[Critter]

A friend of mine wanted a .45 Auto, and I've always wanted a Colt Python.

So after much negotiation (begging and pleading on my part), I got him to consent to a trade.

On my part the following.

Glock Model 21, with:

drop in action modification kit which reduces trigger pull to reasonable level

High visibility after market fixed combat sights

Long combat style magazine and slide release

4 13 round drop free magazines.

On his part:

Colt Python 4" .357 Magnum Revolver in unfired condition.

I will add that this breaks up a complete set (barrel lengths) that he had, and that when I trade, I like to be on the high dollar side of the deal (Giving more than I receive.)

Did I do right by him?

[Rick in Oregon]

Dave, I'd say you came away on top. Glocks, even ones with some mods are a dime a dozen, but finding a nice Python is truly a very nice find, as there's just not that many nice ones that come available on a regular basis.

Congrats on the nice new toy.

[Keith in Ga]

If he's happy with the trade, all should be well. You came out waaaaay ahead on that deal.

[Critter]

Frankly, I am a bit sad to hear that.

But on the other hand I do have a new Python.

[Captqc]

Critter, I'd say that you did come out ahead on the deal but if he's happy then enjoy your good fortune (or send the Colt to me and I'll enjoy your good fortune for you!) Gary

[Ethan]

You should be ashamed of yourself. Taking advantage like that. To make you feel better I will trade you my Gen 1 Glock 22 and two mags. You will then feel good about yourself giving more then you receive. I will grudgingly accept your Python.

[Critter]

You should be ashamed of yourself. Taking advantage like that. To make you feel better I will trade you my Gen 1 Glock 22 and two mags. You will then feel good about yourself giving more then you receive. I will grudgingly accept your Python.

What is your mailing address? I will mail it as soon as perdition freezes over. Any qwestions?

[Jim White]

I agree with Rick, nice Python's don't come around too often.

Enjoy,

[Critter]

I looked at firearms america or some such and NIB Colts are now worth around $1500, so he doesn't know it yet, but he gets a choice of either a USO SN-12 with Circle/Chevron USMC reticle or ST-10 EREK ERGO LIT DOE Mk2 Reticle, that I have in stock. Best Price for Model 21 is around $600 at the same source. Thanks all for the help, thats why I was checking. I had no idea, but it seems if something is no longer made the price goes up.

All he has is VX-2s and this will put a military grade scope on his AR. That ST-10 as configured retails for around $1500, so it will fit my normal trading practice. The SN-12 is around $950, so it also fits the criteria.

[Ethan]

You should be ashamed of yourself. Taking advantage like that. To make you feel better I will trade you my Gen 1 Glock 22 and two mags. You will then feel good about yourself giving more then you receive. I will grudgingly accept your Python.

What is your mailing address? I will mail it as soon as perdition freezes over. Any qwestions?

PM with my address inbound.

[Critter]

Well, got to fire the Colt this week end.

Loaded up a couple of hundred .38 Spl 125 gr Montana Gold HP with Winchester 231 and small pistol standard primers for a MV of about 950 fps. This give about half the energy 70% of the energy of the typical .45 ACP with FMJ. Not too bad for a light target round.

Now about that Colt. I have always owned and shot SMITHs and have never even tried a colt.

I have this to say about that. Out of the box with my handloads, the thing is smooth as a baby's bottom. Very accurate with practice loads at 15 yards. Worth every penny of the asking price.

Friend was very happy with his USO scope.

PS: Next thing is 146 Speer Lead HP SWC half jackets with 296 and cci 550s for "hunting loads."

[Rick in Oregon]

Dave, when you finally get out into the field with your new Colt, and as you've been shooting Smith's for years, try to remember that the Colt cylinder rotates in the opposite direction than the Smith. I'm sure you've noticed it by now, but it's just something to keep in mind when you're an old "Smith shooter". Never know when the issue could come to light in the field unintentionally.

For a hunting load, try the hard cast Keith 150 or 170gr bullet over Unique. Cheap, accurate, will penetrate a deer fully almost every time from any reasonable handgun range. Zero barrel leading too with Lyman No. 2 Alloy and any good lube like Rooster Red or Javlina.

[glenn asher]

Dave, when you finally get out into the field with your new Colt, and as you've been shooting Smith's for years, try to remember that the Colt cylinder rotates in the opposite direction than the Smith. I'm sure you've noticed it by now, but it's just something to keep in mind when you're an old "Smith shooter". Never know when the issue could come to light in the field unintentionally.

For a hunting load, try the hard cast Keith 150 or 170gr bullet over Unique. Cheap, accurate, will penetrate a deer fully almost every time from any reasonable handgun range. Zero barrel leading too with Lyman No. 2 Alloy and any good lube like Rooster Red or Javlina.

Rick's advice is usually right on , but I think he forgot that Colts have very short cylinders, and might not chamber those long Keith cast bullets in .357 cases . In the case of Pythons, and Smith 27s and 28s, you have to use a short-nosed semiwadcutter, or the load will protrude from the front of the cylinder. A minor point, but trying to save you some grief there.

[remy3424]

+1

Dave, I'd say you came away on top. Glocks, even ones with some mods are a dime a dozen, but finding a nice Python is truly a very nice find, as there's just not that many nice ones that come available on a regular basis.

Congrats on the nice new toy.

Very nice deal for you. I scored one a couple years ago, timing is everything. The Trooper III is not too bad if a guy bumps into one. Still trying to talk a fellow out of one of those.

[sixshooter]

Critter,

The python has a lot of delicate small parts that must all work together for that supper feeling. Not a bad thing but like a really good clock it should be respected. It should shoot for a lifetime but if it does need some work, unless you are really comfortable with what you will find inside, get a good gunsmith. No matter what you got a really good gun at a really good price. They still make glocks.